Who are you kidding? No politicial patronage from the previous administration - You are way off point - And by the way - the voters of Charles County disagree with you
Well Manny I’m not going to argue about the PP, because I believe your wrong, and in reference to your VOTER’s statement, we’ll have to see if your right after the next election cycle.
You suggested “99% of the counties have a county police force.”
Actually only 6 counties out of the 23 counties in Maryland have county police departments. These are PG, Anne Arundel, Howard, Allegany, Baltimore, and Montgomery counties. By my calculation, that means 26% of the counties have police departments.
Also, I assume you do understand that the county commissioners would be responsible for selecting a police chief if we transition to that type of law enforcement system. While I agree with you that the sheriff’s election campaigns can get way out of hand, and sometimes the voters select a candidate we might not like, at least the choice is in the hands of the voters——US!
Can you imagine how political and ugly things could get if the five idiot commissioners were responsible for selecting a police chief? We would be stuck with the law enforcement equivelent of a jackass like Paul Comfort.
A better idea would be to regulate how many outsiders the sheriff would be allowed to bring in once he is elected. It seems much of the controversy about Mr Coffey surrounds his political appointments. If he were regulated by county ordinance and were only allowed to bring in his immediate assistant sheriffs (these positions are held by Joe Montminy and Buddy Gibson) it seems like much of the controversy would cease.
Cowgirl - Very good point on the statistics - However I respectfully disagree with your assessment that the elected position of Sheriff should somehow be regulated, by whom? The Sheriff needs to have an adminsitrative staff that is competent and trustworthy. Rex Coffey chose Buddy Gibson because he had a successful and thriving business which enabled him to bring that experience to the Office of the Sheriff. Gibson is a FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE great cop with real life experience. The mud slinging that is taking place at his expense is the result of a group of men that are no longer employed by the Office of the Sheriff and are simply jealous. If these men truly cared about the Office of the Sheriff they would not be slinging mud they would have mature, constructive arguments about policy not personal attacks.
FACT: Gibson retired as an Acting Sargeant in good standing - Dave Williams knows this because he was in charge of the department that leveled those charges. The public should be very wary of a former cop that is willing to disclose information that was obtained through a supervisory position to further his own agenda - Especially when HE LIES
Manny, It’s quite disturbing that you are spouting off about things you haven’t a clue about. Understand this, Buddy was a corporal and he resigned as such. Now if you can refute this with factual documentation, enough of the bull. A disgraced cop is a disgraced cop no matter how you try to spin it and it taints the CCSO. One more thing, how do you leave in good standing when you were the subject of an investigation, compromised a police investigation, lie about it, and found guilty by a police trial board. This is very disturbing and to think that this is the best that Rex can come up with, very disturbing. Oh, and Capt. Williams was not part of the group that retired upon Rex winning the election. You won’t be able to perpetuate that crap this time out.
A disgraced cop is a disgraced cop no matter how you try to spin it and it taints the CCSO. One more thing, how do you leave in good standing when you were the subject of an investigation, compromised a police investigation, lie about it, and found guilty by a police trial board.
Damn, I hope this thread keeps going, I’m learning stuff I never heard about before, and Manny if I didn’t know better, I would think you might be one of the individuals being talked about on this thread, again just my own “Humble Opinion”
Viper you are wrong - AND I DO HAVE the proof but it won’t come out on this thread - It will come out in public - and Gibson was not a disgraced cop he was the victim of a bunch of no good untruthfulcops who used their power to trump up charges and oust someone that dared to go against their views - You sure know an awful lot about things - the wrong things - wonder if your not part of the subject of this thread too ??? Dave Williams will be proven to be untrustworthy you can bank on it
Viper you are wrong - AND I DO HAVE the proof but it won’t come out on this thread - It will come out in public - and Gibson was not a disgraced cop he was the victim of a bunch of no good untruthfulcops who used their power to trump up charges and oust someone that dared to go against their views - You sure know an awful lot about things - the wrong things - wonder if your not part of the subject of this thread too ??? Dave Williams will be proven to be untrustworthy you can bank on it
So Manny, what you are saying is there are CCSO Deputies on the force that are liars and dishonest, is that what I’m hearing you say.
Manny, I can see you’re in the tank for Rex, not that there’s anything wrong with that. But your views and statements are so outrageous that you have no credibility. I would think that if you had any factual information that could withstand the scrutiny of the forun, you would present it. But alas, you disappoint once again. You are no fun Manny.
Nice try Screamer but no go - you will see just how credible my information is when I want it out -
You bore me Manny, I’m done with you.
Starscreamer, Manny has nothing to divulge, you can tell by the way he/she blabs about things he/she thinks he/she knows about, if he/she had any factual info, he/she is the kind of person who would have spilled it a long, long time ago, he/she is all hot air, and has nothing creditable to disclose, or reveal.
[quote the so called “Structure” - The Office of the Sheriff cannot be abolished - it’s in the Constitution - The County would then have to fund two agencies
We are already funding two agencies. The Sherriff’s Department who handle’s Courthouse Security, and the Security (Secret Service to the Commissioners) hired to protect the County Government Building. Why can’t the Sherriff’s department do both - or are the Commissioner’s warming us up to take the Sherriff’s department out of the courthouse.
The John Thomas Parran Award is for the individual who best exemplifies the idea of “Democrat of the Year”. This honor is bestowed to recognize an individual’s efforts as a Democrat, how the individual has made a real mark on the community for its betterment and improving the visibility and perception of democrats as a result.
Coffey has been a always been a Democrat, the Democrats can count on him and so can the community - Williams is not a Democrat and will attempt to dishonestly convey to voters that he is, shameful.
The simple fact here is that officers who left the Sheriff’s Office after Coffey was elected, either at their own choice or Rex’s, don’t want him to be sheriff for whatever reason. The problem is, the voters feel differently. Also, with regards to a County police force, how could the Fab 5 “sell” this to the public in a time like this? There are approx 300 deputies and 200 correctional officers. How would the officers collect their pensions if they are in the Sheriff’s plan and then told they are now County police? Would they have to start over? The sheriff has probably 150 marked cars. Does the county want the cost of repainting or remarking them with County police logos. This is the kind of stuff people don’t think about. Calvert talked about this about 8 years ago. They had 110 deputies and is was going to cost the taxpayers over $11 million. Imagine how much it would cost Charles. Just my opinion.
The John Thomas Parran Award is for the individual who best exemplifies the idea of “Democrat of the Year”. This honor is bestowed to recognize an individual’s efforts as a Democrat, how the individual has made a real mark on the community for its betterment and improving the visibility and perception of democrats as a result.
Coffey has been a always been a Democrat, the Democrats can count on him and so can the community - Williams is not a Democrat and will attempt to dishonestly convey to voters that he is, shameful.
Politics as it pertains to the local level means nothing. It is probable that Coffey ran as a democrat because it was unlikely he could beat Davis in the Republican primary. Very likely Williams is running as a democrat because he sees the change in county demographics as a sign indicating the futility of a Republican campaign.
The Sheriff’s party affiliation has nothing to do with the administration of his Office. The normal party platforms don’t apply. I don’t recall Fred Davis giving speeches against abortion or gay marriage. Nor do I recall seeing Rex Coffey on TV proclaiming his support for legalization of marijuana or pleading the legislature for socialized health care.
Furthermore, if you examine the personalities of Fred Davis and Rex Coffey, you might find that each might be in the wrong political party. Davis was really very “community policing” driven and spent alot of time courting special interests, which is typically a trait of democrats. On the other hand, Coffey is a “kick-ass” kind of sheriff who is not afraid to offend people in the coarse of his duties and isn’t exactly “politically correct” - a clearly Republican mindset.
Both Williams and Coffey should stick to the issues and discuss them openly and truthfully. As long as they respect one another as professionals and avoid personal attacks, this election should go smoothly. Unfortunately, many people wrongly believe that asking about the qualifications of Coffey’s political appointees amounts to a personal attack against Coffey. Personally, I think the citizens need to know what they are paying for.
Wow, I read this entire thread from front to back. I kind of enjoyed the ” tit for tat” exchange that was going on. Point in, Coffey is a clown that hasn’t delivered on his promises, and surrounded himself by a bunch of questionable ” former cops’. Now I don’t know about you, but to me, THAT’S SUSPICIOUS AS HELL!
Dave Williams and Brian Eley? These two clowns wouldn’t know good police work if they had a 20 year head start between them. Williams is a nobody, while Eley is a snake-in the grass, political hack, brought on board because he is black, and for no other reason.
Hey, I’ve got an idea, let’s try to put someone up there, who won’t appoint ANYONE to any positions, and use the hardworking officers already there, and someone who has ALOT of experience dealing with the types of crimes committed today, and not 30 years ago, eh? Or would that not fly because there wouldn’t be enough nepotism and good ol boyness involved?
Despite what you THINK you know, the fact remains, Coffey is a one term Sheriff, and Dave Williams definitely is NOT the answer….
