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Posted: 04 July 2010 07:25 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 26 ]  
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Mr. Joshua - 02 July 2010 09:33 PM

Uh…..you have got to be kidding, right? This brings the Charles County Sheriff’s race to a new low. This County has always been a two man race, usually between people that have some experience and credibility. Now this! What are we up to now, five candidates, half with little to no experience wanting to run a 500 person Agency with a 65 million dollar budget. God help us if the voters in this County don’t pay attention and vote based on petty reasons and not due to an informed and educated decision.

I agree.  The sad thing is that the Sheriff’s race is one that the candidates are motivated by hatred.  Foster is mad because Rex didn’t rehire him.  Williams and Crawford hate the fact that Rex is Sheriff.  Williams hates Buddy Gibson more than he hates Rex.  Listen carefully to what each of these candidates has to say.  You will see that everything they say is an attack on personalities and not the job Rex is doing.  “I won’t do this and I won’t do that is” what you hear from these guys.  Why don’t you tell what you ARE going to do.  PLATFORMS, PLATFORMS, PLATFORMS.  I WANT PLATFORMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted: 04 July 2010 09:40 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 27 ]  
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Bill, I thought I was the only one who had picked up on that. Its pretty obvious that Williams main objective is internal management disagreements. Dave Williams can dislike Major Gibson until the cows come home. The facts are that he has managed the administrative side of that agency in the worst financial environment it has seen in years and, he has been very successful. Personalities aside, Major Gibson has done an excellent job. I see more cops patroling, the officers have taken less of a hit (pay/benefits) than officers in other jurisdiction’s, and overall the crime rate is down. As a citizen, thats the bottom line. The sheriffs office was forced to do more with less and they have done it successfully.
As a voter I could care less about all the internal nonsense about who doesn’t deserve something or who is assigned what job. I want to know what the sheriff is going to do for me and, my community. How he gets things done is an internal management issue. So far Rex Coffey is the only candidate who seems to care about doing the actual job of providing law enforcement services in the community. And, after speaking with him last week, it appears that he has a genuine passion for doing the job. So far, he has my vote!

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Posted: 04 July 2010 01:51 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 28 ]  
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Ten Bears - 04 July 2010 09:40 AM

Bill, I thought I was the only one who had picked up on that. Its pretty obvious that Williams main objective is internal management disagreements. Dave Williams can dislike Major Gibson until the cows come home. The facts are that he has managed the administrative side of that agency in the worst financial environment it has seen in years and, he has been very successful. Personalities aside, Major Gibson has done an excellent job. I see more cops patroling, the officers have taken less of a hit (pay/benefits) than officers in other jurisdiction’s, and overall the crime rate is down. As a citizen, thats the bottom line. The sheriffs office was forced to do more with less and they have done it successfully.
As a voter I could care less about all the internal nonsense about who doesn’t deserve something or who is in assigned what job. I want to know what the sheriff is going to do for me and, my community. How he gets things done is an internal management issue. So far Rex Coffey is the only candidate who seems to care about doing the actual job of providing law enforcement services in the community. And, after speaking with him last week, it appears that he has a genuine passion for doing the job. So far, he has my vote!

Watch Out Ten Bears.  You just made yourself a target for DocHoliday.

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Posted: 04 July 2010 04:52 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 29 ]  
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You guys are ganging up me here Bill.What is it, 10-1 now? Where is my ‘ol
buddy ‘Wyatt Earp’ when I need em. Looks like ‘ol Virgil is lighting out
on me too. This is starting to look more like ‘High Noon’.

Ten ‘Beers’ has nothing to worry about. I have no qualm with him supporting
Coffey, heck I supported him last time around. I even congratulated him on
his victory and wished him well. I now support WILLIAMS. We all have our
preferences. The candidate that loses always has the option to come back
in 4 years and make their case again. It’s only an election.

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Posted: 04 July 2010 05:18 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 30 ]  
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DocHoliday - 04 July 2010 04:52 PM

You guys are ganging up me here Bill.What is it, 10-1 now? Where is my ‘ol
buddy ‘Wyatt Earp’ when I need em. Looks like ‘ol Virgil is lighting out
on me too. This is starting to look more like ‘High Noon’.

Ten ‘Beers’ has nothing to worry about. I have no qualm with him supporting
Coffey, heck I supported him last time around. I even congratulated him on
his victory and wished him well. I now support WILLIAMS. We all have our
preferences. The candidate that loses always has the option to come back
in 4 years and make their case again. It’s only an election.

cool smile


I could not disagree with you more.  This is not just an election.  Our safety, our family’s safety and the men and women of the Sheriff’s Office hang in the balance.  None of the other candidates has any experience managing through these tough times.  That includes Eley (running mate) of Williams.  St. Mary’s County Sheriff’s Office does not manage their budget.  The county does it.  Facts are facts.  Coffey has managed his funds to such a degree that he receives accolades from many other officials and crime is down over 13%.  What more could a citizen want in return from a Sheriff.  Doc, no one is ganging up on you.  I think most people are trying to get you to see the big picture.

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Posted: 04 July 2010 08:49 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 31 ]  
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Bill Jones - 04 July 2010 05:18 PM


I could not disagree with you more.  This is not just an election.  Our safety, our family’s safety and the men and women of the Sheriff’s Office hang in the balance.  None of the other candidates has any experience managing through these tough times.  That includes Eley (running mate) of Williams.  St. Mary’s County Sheriff’s Office does not manage their budget.  The county does it.  Facts are facts.  Coffey has managed his funds to such a degree that he receives accolades from many other officials and crime is down over 13%.  What more could a citizen want in return from a Sheriff.  Doc, no one is ganging up on you.  I think most people are trying to get you to see the big picture.

Crime is down 13% in Charles County, says who? Like I said before, other administrations
have been known to twist the ‘crime stats’ like a pretzel in order to make things appear
better than they actually were. And don’t give me this song and dance that these ‘stats’
come from the FBI and the State Police, because we all know that the FBI and State
Police simply ‘publish’ what has been given to them by the local police agencies, which
means that there is no verification. And without verification those ‘stats’ are not
worth the paper they are written on and therefore cannot be relied on as the Gospel truth.


Is this the case with this particular administration, I have no idea. Does the FBI know..no!
Does the State Police know..no! What I will say though is…“If it sounds ‘to good’ to
be true”...well you know the rest.

cool hmm

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Posted: 04 July 2010 11:23 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 32 ]  
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Bill Jones - 04 July 2010 05:18 PM


I could not disagree with you more.  This is not just an election.  Our safety, our family’s safety and the men and women of the Sheriff’s Office hang in the balance.  None of the other candidates has any experience managing through these tough times.  That includes Eley (running mate) of Williams.  St. Mary’s County Sheriff’s Office does not manage their budget.  The county does it.  Facts are facts.  Coffey has managed his funds to such a degree that he receives accolades from many other officials and crime is down over 13%.  What more could a citizen want in return from a Sheriff.  Doc, no one is ganging up on you.  I think most people are trying to get you to see the big picture.

Crime is down 13% in Charles County, says who? Like I said before, other administrations
have been known to twist the ‘crime stats’ like a pretzel in order to make things appear
better than they actually were. And don’t give me this song and dance that these ‘stats’
come from the FBI and the State Police, because we all know that the FBI and State
Police simply ‘publish’ what has been given to them by the local police agencies, which
means that there is no verification. And without verification those ‘stats’ are not
worth the paper they are written on and therefore cannot be relied on as the Gospel truth.


Is this the case with this particular administration, I have no idea. Does the FBI know..no!
Does the State Police know..no! What I will say though is…“If it sounds ‘to good’ to
be true”...well you know the rest.

cool hmm


Well the interesting part about this is one of the Sheriff’s opponents is the one who calculates the numbers.  Sorry, but I can not imagine an opponent doctoring with the numbers to make Coffey look good.  You have to come up with a better excuse Doc.  And you are wrong, the state does audit the numbers. I will finish your phrase.  If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.  PROBABLY is the key word.  Sometimes things that sound too good to be true, really are true.

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Posted: 05 July 2010 08:42 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 33 ]  
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Bill, YOU said in a previous post that ‘Davis’ during the time he was Sheriff
manipulated his crime stats. Now you’re saying it’s not possible to manipulate
the crime stats because the State Police ‘audit’ the numbers. If that’s the case
then how did Davis manage to ‘pull one over’ on the State Police? Sounds to me
like you’re talking out of both sides of your mouth. When it’s a candidate you
support, it could not have occurred, but when it’s a candidate you dislike it          
positively did happen. You’re talking out of your A** Bill. You can’t have it
both ways. Those stats are not audited by any outside agency and therefore
can’t be fully relied on…end of story!

You also mention that certain ‘officials’ were giving Coffey accolades. That
means absolutely nothing because anyone can get a ‘pat on the back’ from an old
friend.

People with titles or officials as you put it are no different than you or me.
Case in point. Remember the ‘tough on crime, hard as nails’ Govenor of Florida
JEB BUSH {President George Bush’s brother}. He bragged about how he was locking
up all of the drug users and throwing away the key until his own ‘daughter’
was arrested by the cops with of all things ‘crack cocaine’. After that he ‘wilted’
like a flower in the desert. The point I’m trying to make is that accolades or
pats on the back by so-called officials should not be given any more weight than
any other ‘Joe Citizen’.

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Posted: 05 July 2010 08:53 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 34 ]  
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DocHoliday - 05 July 2010 08:42 AM

Bill, YOU said in a previous post that ‘Davis’ during the time he was Sheriff
manipulated his crime stats. Now you’re saying it’s not possible to manipulate
the crime stats because the State Police ‘audit’ the numbers. If that’s the case
then how did Davis manage to ‘pull one over’ on the State Police? Sounds to me
like you’re talking out of both sides of your mouth. When it’s a candidate you
support, it could not have occurred, but when it’s a candidate you dislike it          
positively did happen. You’re talking out of your A** Bill. You can’t have it
both ways. Those stats are not audited by any outside agency and therefore
can’t be fully relied on…end of story!

You also mention that certain ‘officials’ were giving Coffey accolades. That
means absolutely nothing because anyone can get a ‘pat on back’ from an old
friend.

People with titles or officials as you put it are no different than you or me.
Case in point. Remember the ‘tough on crime, hard as nails’ Govenor of Florida
JEB BUSH {President George Bush’s brother},. He bragged about how he was throwing
all of the drug users into jail and throwing away the key, until his ‘own daughter’
was arrested by the cops with of all things ‘crack cocaine’. After that he ‘wilted’
like a flower in the desert. The point I’m trying to make is that accolades or
pats on the back by so-called officials should not be given any more weight than
any other ‘Joe Citizen’.

blank stare


In any previous post, I talked about how past administrations used crime rates and not crime numbers.  I never accused anyone of manipulating the numbers.  Davis would tout crime rates and not crime numbers.  Two different things.  You know Doc, you can’t see the forest for the trees.  You have consumed the Davis/Williams koolade and you can’t even see truth when it is put on a platter in front of you. Just like everyone else, I’m done with you and your silly ways of thinking.

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Posted: 05 July 2010 09:23 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 35 ]  
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Bill, I don’t know where you get the idea that I support Davis. I in no way
support Davis, because in my opinion he showed ‘unashamed’ favoritism.

I support Williams and you support Coffey. In the last Presidential election
I supported HILLARY and you probably supported OBAMA. That’s not to you say
either one of us was wrong or right, it’s just that we support different
candidates. I’m sure we both can agree on that…right Bill?

The bottom line is that it will all be settled in November. Now Bill, I don’t
want you and your cohorts tampering with those voting machines. I know how badly
you want to win, but lets keep it clean.

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Posted: 05 July 2010 09:25 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 36 ]  
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Let’s get back on track. This thread is about Foster. If my memory serves me correct, he was investigated for a sexual harassment complaint. He was offered a demotion, but instead chose to go to a police trial board. That board found him guilty and he was subsequently terminated. I am just trying to figure out the difference between Foster and Graves. Graves had 3 complaints filed and he managed to receive a big fat pension, while Foster was terminated. I am no fan of Foster, but I guess helping Davis out during the campaigns has it’s benefits. I wouldn’t vote for either of these clowns and I urge the rest of you in the pond to follow suit…just one woman’s opinion.

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Posted: 05 July 2010 09:43 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 37 ]  
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Maria - 05 July 2010 09:25 AM

Let’s get back on track. This thread is about Foster. If my memory serves me correct, he was investigated for a sexual harassment complaint. He was offered a demotion, but instead chose to go to a police trial board. That board found him guilty and he was subsequently terminated. I am just trying to figure out the difference between Foster and Graves. Graves had 3 complaints filed and he managed to receive a big fat pension, while Foster was terminated. I am no fan of Foster, but I guess helping Davis out during the campaigns has it’s benefits. I wouldn’t vote for either of these clowns and I urge the rest of you in the pond to follow suit…just one woman’s opinion.

Sounds to me like some female(s) were being a little ‘melodramatic’. As far as Foster
being terminated, well you can find just about anyone guilty of just about anything with
the right jury or group of people. I’m not saying he was innocent, but we all know that
there are people sitting on ‘death row’ that never killed a flea.

ohh

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Posted: 05 July 2010 09:57 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 38 ]  
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Maria - 05 July 2010 09:25 AM

Let’s get back on track. This thread is about Foster. If my memory serves me correct, he was investigated for a sexual harassment complaint. He was offered a demotion, but instead chose to go to a police trial board. That board found him guilty and he was subsequently terminated. I am just trying to figure out the difference between Foster and Graves. Graves had 3 complaints filed and he managed to receive a big fat pension, while Foster was terminated. I am no fan of Foster, but I guess helping Davis out during the campaigns has it’s benefits. I wouldn’t vote for either of these clowns and I urge the rest of you in the pond to follow suit…just one woman’s opinion.

Sounds to me like some female(s) were being a little ‘melodramatic’. As far as Foster
being terminated, well you can find just about anyone guilty of just about anything with
the right jury or group of people. I’m not saying he was innocent, but we all know that
there are people sitting on ‘death row’ that never killed a flea.

ohh

Doc, I’m not a woman and I am offended by your comments. You need to learn to respect women.

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Posted: 05 July 2010 10:02 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 39 ]  
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Okay..okay, maybe my last post was a little insensitive.

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Maria - 05 July 2010 09:25 AM

He was offered a demotion, but instead chose to go to a police trial board. That board found him guilty and he was subsequently terminated.

Maria, if this is true and he did not resign but was fired, that sheds a whole different light on him as a candidate. If he was found guilty of improper conduct and terminated, why on earth would he put himself through such public scrutiny? And, I would think that Dave Williams as the former Internal Affairs Commander would be very familiar with the facts surrounding Fosters case.


Doc, I will let you and Bill exchange the punches, you seem to be enjoying it. I will certainly respect your right to choose your candidate and cast your vote, thats the way the system works. My posts reflect my personal perceptions and opinions only. Oh, and by the way, I don’t drink.

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Posted: 05 July 2010 11:17 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 41 ]  
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DocHoliday - 05 July 2010 10:02 AM

Okay..okay, maybe my last post was a little insensitive.

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Wrong.  It wasn’t a little insensitive.  It was downright sexist.  It sounds like you have the same thoughts about women that Graves and Foster have.  You might as well throw out the “N” word while you are at it.  Now I know why you support Williams.  You are just plain ignorant.

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Posted: 05 July 2010 11:37 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 42 ]  
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DocHoliday - 05 July 2010 10:02 AM

Okay..okay, maybe my last post was a little insensitive.

red face

Wrong.  It wasn’t a little insensitive.  It was downright sexist.  It sounds like you have the same thoughts about women that Graves and Foster have.  You might as well throw out the “N” word while you are at it.  Now I know why you support Williams.  You are just plain ignorant.

Bill…your posts are beginning to sound like the ‘ravings’ of a Madman…lol

And why would I throw out the ‘N’ word when both candidates are WHITE.

hmmm

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DocHoliday - 05 July 2010 10:02 AM

Okay..okay, maybe my last post was a little insensitive.

red face

Wrong.  It wasn’t a little insensitive.  It was downright sexist.  It sounds like you have the same thoughts about women that Graves and Foster have.  You might as well throw out the “N” word while you are at it.  Now I know why you support Williams.  You are just plain ignorant.

Bill…your posts are beginning to sound like the ‘ravings’ of a Madman…lol

And why would I throw out the ‘N’ word when both candidates are WHITE.

hmmm

None of the candidates are women, but you certainly found a way to be offensive.  Look in the mirror guy.  And I’m not laughing.

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Posted: 05 July 2010 11:53 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 44 ]  
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Oh Bill relax. As much as we love women, we both know that women can
be, lets say ‘overly emotional’ at times.

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DocHoliday - 05 July 2010 11:53 AM

Oh Bill relax. As much as we love women, we both know that women can
be, lets say ‘overly emotional’ at times.

Love!  This has nothing to do with love.  This is about respect.  You are a sexist pig who needs to keep your offensive thoughts to yourself.  Trust me, I am keeping my offensive thoughts about you in my head and not posting them.  It might do you some good to get some help.  Maybe your “overly emotional” wife should hit you with a frying pan and knock some sense into you.

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DocHoliday - 05 July 2010 11:53 AM

Oh Bill relax. As much as we love women, we both know that women can
be, lets say ‘overly emotional’ at times.

Love!  This has nothing to do with love.  This is about respect.  You are a sexist pig who needs to keep your offensive thoughts to yourself.  Trust me, I am keeping my offensive thoughts about you in my head and not posting them.  It might do you some good to get some help.  Maybe your “overly emotional” wife should hit you with a frying pan and knock some sense into you.

Bill you know what I’m saying is true.

How many men have ‘crying fits’? Did you ever hear a guy say, “does my hair look
okay’, ” do I need more blush” or “does this dress make my butt look too big”.

Oh wait…I stand corrected. There are the ‘LOG CABIN REPUBLICANS’...lol

LOL

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This thread is about Foster. If my memory serves me correct, he was investigated for a sexual harassment complaint. He was offered a demotion, but instead chose to go to a police trial board. That board found him guilty and he was subsequently terminated. I am just trying to figure out the difference between Foster and Graves. Graves had 3 complaints filed and he managed to receive a big fat pension, while Foster was terminated. I am no fan of Foster, but I guess helping Davis out during the campaigns has it’s benefits. I wouldn’t vote for either of these clowns and I urge the rest of you in the pond to follow suit…just one woman’s opinion.

So far I’m not reading anything about why one SHOULD vote for Foster or Williams over Rex Coffey.  Sounds to me like Rex has his opposition flummoxed as to how to go about campaigning against him.  Rex is in the catbird seat; his opponents know it, and they can’t find a hook to hang their campaign on—that has to sting.

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DocHoliday - 05 July 2010 11:53 AM

Oh Bill relax. As much as we love women, we both know that women can
be, lets say ‘overly emotional’ at times.

Love!  This has nothing to do with love.  This is about respect.  You are a sexist pig who needs to keep your offensive thoughts to yourself.  Trust me, I am keeping my offensive thoughts about you in my head and not posting them.  It might do you some good to get some help.  Maybe your “overly emotional” wife should hit you with a frying pan and knock some sense into you.

Bill you know what I’m saying is true.

How many men have ‘crying fits’? Did you ever hear a guy say, “does my hair look
okay’, ” do I need more blush” or “does this dress make my butt look too big”.

Oh wait…I stand corrected. There are the ‘LOG CABIN REPUBLICANS’...lol
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LOL

You are kidding, right?

Most neaderthals I know of who think this way dont’ know how to navigate websites

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Wow!! very pretty! And I’m not talking to you Shanar..lol

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I am a woman and I am offended. I guess everytime a male coworker makes a pass at us, we deserved it or had it coming.

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